Comments on: The real Bizarre in Cuba http://bilingualintheboonies.com/2009/09/03/the-real-bizarre-in-cuba/ mami tries Fri, 10 Feb 2012 01:28:28 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Carrie-in-TN http://bilingualintheboonies.com/2009/09/03/the-real-bizarre-in-cuba/comment-page-1/#comment-2921 Carrie-in-TN Wed, 16 Sep 2009 17:19:29 +0000 http://bilingualintheboonies.com/2009/09/03/the-real-bizarre-in-cuba/#comment-2921 Careful everybody...stay polite...let it rest. Careful everybody…stay polite…let it rest.

]]> By: Oyá http://bilingualintheboonies.com/2009/09/03/the-real-bizarre-in-cuba/comment-page-1/#comment-2920 Oyá Wed, 16 Sep 2009 06:30:35 +0000 http://bilingualintheboonies.com/2009/09/03/the-real-bizarre-in-cuba/#comment-2920 Abuelita y Melek - agradezco sus comentarios, pero yo no necesito sus explicaciones sobre Cuba. Tengo una educación super fina y mis opiniones se basan de las experiencias de mi vida. Nuestros desacuerdos se basan en nuestras diversas experiencias.<br />The Fearless Blog - no es necesario insultarme.<br />Carrie - quizás debe suprimir mis posts. Mi intención no era ofender pero que será será... Abuelita y Melek – agradezco sus comentarios, pero yo no necesito sus explicaciones sobre Cuba. Tengo una educación super fina y mis opiniones se basan de las experiencias de mi vida. Nuestros desacuerdos se basan en nuestras diversas experiencias.
The Fearless Blog – no es necesario insultarme.
Carrie – quizás debe suprimir mis posts. Mi intención no era ofender pero que será será…

]]> By: Melek http://bilingualintheboonies.com/2009/09/03/the-real-bizarre-in-cuba/comment-page-1/#comment-2911 Melek Wed, 09 Sep 2009 15:50:28 +0000 http://bilingualintheboonies.com/2009/09/03/the-real-bizarre-in-cuba/#comment-2911 Directly From Cuba: "Decadencia", by Eskuadrón Patriótico<br />(In Spanish)<br /><br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NdHoKatqK6E<br /><br />I wish you well :) Melek<br /><br />"Man is not free to watch impassively the enslavement and dishonor of men, nor their struggles for liberty and honor." ~ Jose Marti Directly From Cuba: "Decadencia", by Eskuadrón Patriótico
(In Spanish)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NdHoKatqK6E

I wish you well :) Melek

"Man is not free to watch impassively the enslavement and dishonor of men, nor their struggles for liberty and honor." ~ Jose Marti

]]> By: Cubanita http://bilingualintheboonies.com/2009/09/03/the-real-bizarre-in-cuba/comment-page-1/#comment-2910 Cubanita Wed, 09 Sep 2009 06:29:33 +0000 http://bilingualintheboonies.com/2009/09/03/the-real-bizarre-in-cuba/#comment-2910 Great post, Carrie!<br />I'm linking to it. <br /><br />I've read about the show, but knowing the business as I know it -and not being the optimistic you are - I kind of knew this was gonna be the usual stuff completely detached from the actual Cuban's reality. <br /><br />Maybe I am way too realistic, by I agree with Val. Not surprised at all. <br /><br />When even the NYT criticized it (since they are la mata, the cream of cream of MSM's editorial bias, it should be because it was wayyyyyy to far from reality. <br /><br />I am with Abuela on this; you know, mas sabe el diablo por viejo que por diablo (No offense to the age of the Abuela, OK?) Digo yo... Great post, Carrie!
I'm linking to it.

I've read about the show, but knowing the business as I know it -and not being the optimistic you are – I kind of knew this was gonna be the usual stuff completely detached from the actual Cuban's reality.

Maybe I am way too realistic, by I agree with Val. Not surprised at all.

When even the NYT criticized it (since they are la mata, the cream of cream of MSM's editorial bias, it should be because it was wayyyyyy to far from reality.

I am with Abuela on this; you know, mas sabe el diablo por viejo que por diablo (No offense to the age of the Abuela, OK?) Digo yo…

]]> By: The Fearless Blog http://bilingualintheboonies.com/2009/09/03/the-real-bizarre-in-cuba/comment-page-1/#comment-2909 The Fearless Blog Wed, 09 Sep 2009 02:05:29 +0000 http://bilingualintheboonies.com/2009/09/03/the-real-bizarre-in-cuba/#comment-2909 Bravo!!!!! The world needs more "truth writers" and less journalists and TV personalities perhaps? Why do so many continue to ignore the injustices in the world? Why do so many praise and accept that which is completely reprehensible? <br /><br />Worst of all, how can some in the United States still applaud Castro and the communist government there? Are they blind? Or are they simply empty of any humanity? Bravo!!!!! The world needs more "truth writers" and less journalists and TV personalities perhaps? Why do so many continue to ignore the injustices in the world? Why do so many praise and accept that which is completely reprehensible?

Worst of all, how can some in the United States still applaud Castro and the communist government there? Are they blind? Or are they simply empty of any humanity?

]]> By: Melek http://bilingualintheboonies.com/2009/09/03/the-real-bizarre-in-cuba/comment-page-1/#comment-2908 Melek Tue, 08 Sep 2009 16:00:52 +0000 http://bilingualintheboonies.com/2009/09/03/the-real-bizarre-in-cuba/#comment-2908 LOL Abuela!<br /><br />Y yo con el despiste ... pense que Oya es un nombre turco (ya que existe en Turquia, sin el acento) ...lol!!! lo menos que me vino a la mente fue lo de santo ... oops! english now ... all along, I thought Oya was a Turkish name ... <br /><br />I wish you well :) Melek<br /><br />"There are some people who live in a dream world, and there are some who face reality; and then there are those who turn one into the other." ~ D.H. Everett LOL Abuela!

Y yo con el despiste … pense que Oya es un nombre turco (ya que existe en Turquia, sin el acento) …lol!!! lo menos que me vino a la mente fue lo de santo … oops! english now … all along, I thought Oya was a Turkish name …

I wish you well :) Melek

"There are some people who live in a dream world, and there are some who face reality; and then there are those who turn one into the other." ~ D.H. Everett

]]> By: Abuela http://bilingualintheboonies.com/2009/09/03/the-real-bizarre-in-cuba/comment-page-1/#comment-2907 Abuela Tue, 08 Sep 2009 13:26:32 +0000 http://bilingualintheboonies.com/2009/09/03/the-real-bizarre-in-cuba/#comment-2907 Melek,thanks for explaining things to Oya(nombre de Santo)otherwise my comment was going to be Delete. Melek,thanks for explaining things to Oya(nombre de Santo)otherwise my comment was going to be Delete.

]]> By: Melek http://bilingualintheboonies.com/2009/09/03/the-real-bizarre-in-cuba/comment-page-1/#comment-2906 Melek Sat, 05 Sep 2009 17:21:13 +0000 http://bilingualintheboonies.com/2009/09/03/the-real-bizarre-in-cuba/#comment-2906 Oya,<br /><br />You're right about Cubans ... in spite of 50+ years under a totalitarian & repressive regime, their spirit & inherent (I think genetically) "joi de vivre" prevails ...<br /><br />In the real world, we can't discuss Cubans & Cuba and leave out politics ... the sad reality of Cubans in the island is not a result of a natural disaster or lack of natural resources or industry, and so on ... it's the result of the impact of the socialist/communist political (economic) system imposed by the Castro regime on the Cuban people. <br /><br />Even if we attempt to leave politics aside, from the moral perspective, how can we reconcile with the fact that while WE enjoy and even take for granted our Freedom, Cubans lack theirs? <br /><br />Andrew made a comment about all the vintage cars in Cuba and explained that this was a result of the US Embargo (which does not apply to humanitarian help/food/medicine) ... but wait ... how come we don't see cars from all the other car manufacturing countries in the world? After all, isn't the USA the only country which does not "directly" do business with Cuba? Basic things are not available to "ordinary" Cubans in the island because of the island's political (& thus economic)system.<br /><br />It's telling how some want and stipulate change towards Cuba from the outside, without requiring any change inside Cuba! If you really care and love Cubans, you would not be satisfied with watching "some" of them get dollars and things from their families & contacts in the US, instead, you would want ALL Cubans to have a fair shot and access to a better life, which can only begin with the Freedom to think and do what they want ...for a socialist system which strive in equality, the opposite is so evident!!<br /><br />"In Cuba we worry about food and basic things and in the US people worry about health care...I don't know which is worse."<br /><br />Oya, from time to time from your words, it's hard to determine if you are actually in the US or in Cuba ... but if you live in the US ... you know that no one is refused health care at a hospital's emergency room ... we also have Medicaid! Yes ... maybe we need health care reform, but all things "Free" are not always better, nor are they "free" ... <br /><br />Oya, I don't know you and I respect your opinion. However, you used the disclaimer line :<br />"I don't condone or defend the regime and I am not a communist."<br /><br />For someone who makes that statement, I must say that you have done a great job justifying the reality of Cuba under communism. You remind me of my aunt, who would make statements like ... "We can't find soap, but it's ok since we are exporting it ..." ;)<br /><br />Oya, no need to worry though ... With the easing of travel restrictions and elimination of the money Cubans in exile can send to their relatives in Cuba by this administration, a few lucky Cubans in the island prison can at least enjoy a little more their lives while in confinement ... until parole comes in the form of a raft, lottery number, marriage to a foreigner (with luck), regime change or death ...<br /><br />I wish you well :) Melek<br /><br />"Combined with the Freedom to do so, the will to succeed and prosper, or have everything handed to you, is the difference between wealth and poverty. Try, push hard and the rewards are there, sit on your butt and bemoan your plight and you will be handicapped all the rest of your life. It's a choice; Not mine! I choose to win, not lose. I choose to succeed, not fail. And the rewards are earned not given.” ~ Melek Oya,

You're right about Cubans … in spite of 50+ years under a totalitarian & repressive regime, their spirit & inherent (I think genetically) "joi de vivre" prevails …

In the real world, we can't discuss Cubans & Cuba and leave out politics … the sad reality of Cubans in the island is not a result of a natural disaster or lack of natural resources or industry, and so on … it's the result of the impact of the socialist/communist political (economic) system imposed by the Castro regime on the Cuban people.

Even if we attempt to leave politics aside, from the moral perspective, how can we reconcile with the fact that while WE enjoy and even take for granted our Freedom, Cubans lack theirs?

Andrew made a comment about all the vintage cars in Cuba and explained that this was a result of the US Embargo (which does not apply to humanitarian help/food/medicine) … but wait … how come we don't see cars from all the other car manufacturing countries in the world? After all, isn't the USA the only country which does not "directly" do business with Cuba? Basic things are not available to "ordinary" Cubans in the island because of the island's political (& thus economic)system.

It's telling how some want and stipulate change towards Cuba from the outside, without requiring any change inside Cuba! If you really care and love Cubans, you would not be satisfied with watching "some" of them get dollars and things from their families & contacts in the US, instead, you would want ALL Cubans to have a fair shot and access to a better life, which can only begin with the Freedom to think and do what they want …for a socialist system which strive in equality, the opposite is so evident!!

"In Cuba we worry about food and basic things and in the US people worry about health care…I don't know which is worse."

Oya, from time to time from your words, it's hard to determine if you are actually in the US or in Cuba … but if you live in the US … you know that no one is refused health care at a hospital's emergency room … we also have Medicaid! Yes … maybe we need health care reform, but all things "Free" are not always better, nor are they "free" …

Oya, I don't know you and I respect your opinion. However, you used the disclaimer line :
"I don't condone or defend the regime and I am not a communist."

For someone who makes that statement, I must say that you have done a great job justifying the reality of Cuba under communism. You remind me of my aunt, who would make statements like … "We can't find soap, but it's ok since we are exporting it …" ;)

Oya, no need to worry though … With the easing of travel restrictions and elimination of the money Cubans in exile can send to their relatives in Cuba by this administration, a few lucky Cubans in the island prison can at least enjoy a little more their lives while in confinement … until parole comes in the form of a raft, lottery number, marriage to a foreigner (with luck), regime change or death …

I wish you well :) Melek

"Combined with the Freedom to do so, the will to succeed and prosper, or have everything handed to you, is the difference between wealth and poverty. Try, push hard and the rewards are there, sit on your butt and bemoan your plight and you will be handicapped all the rest of your life. It's a choice; Not mine! I choose to win, not lose. I choose to succeed, not fail. And the rewards are earned not given.” ~ Melek

]]> By: Carrie-in-TN http://bilingualintheboonies.com/2009/09/03/the-real-bizarre-in-cuba/comment-page-1/#comment-2905 Carrie-in-TN Sat, 05 Sep 2009 16:16:04 +0000 http://bilingualintheboonies.com/2009/09/03/the-real-bizarre-in-cuba/#comment-2905 Info from family there, family and friends who have immigrated recently, from my three visits there (1991, 1996, 1998) and news stories. Realize some is old, but still bizarre...jaja. Info from family there, family and friends who have immigrated recently, from my three visits there (1991, 1996, 1998) and news stories. Realize some is old, but still bizarre…jaja.

]]> By: Oyá http://bilingualintheboonies.com/2009/09/03/the-real-bizarre-in-cuba/comment-page-1/#comment-2904 Oyá Sat, 05 Sep 2009 15:47:35 +0000 http://bilingualintheboonies.com/2009/09/03/the-real-bizarre-in-cuba/#comment-2904 Thank you for your kind words Carrie. Jajaja...I work on my English a lot, but you know writing is very different from talking because I can stop and look things up! Plus, I studied English in school in Cuba.<br />I really like your blog...I always think it's funny to find cubans spread out in the country, because we always think cubans, Miami! Jajaja! Thank you for your kind words Carrie. Jajaja…I work on my English a lot, but you know writing is very different from talking because I can stop and look things up! Plus, I studied English in school in Cuba.
I really like your blog…I always think it's funny to find cubans spread out in the country, because we always think cubans, Miami! Jajaja!

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